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ONLINE CONFERENCE - NOVA DESIGN, CREATORS OF IMAGE FX 2.0
[Recently, Portal held a conference with Nova Design, the creators and
publishers of ImageFX, the graphic processing system being reviewed in AR
as we speak. -Jason]
Harv: TONITE WE HAVE THE HONOR OF PRESENTING TO YOU.... THREE GUYS WHO
FORM A COMPANY... THAT IS A RARITY THESE DAYS... NOT ONLY DO THEY
MAKE *ONLY* AMIGA PRODUCTS... BUT THEY SUPPORT IT, AND HAVE NO
PLANS TO DO ICKY STINKY PEECEE PORTS OF IT... :) THIS COMPANY IS
NOVA DESIGN INC... THEIR PRODUCT IS IMAGEFX2... AND THEIR NAMES
ARE KERMIT WOODALL, TOM KREHBIEL, AND BOB FISHER...
Kermit: Actually, we're only porting to the VIC-20. <grin>
Harv: IMAGEFX2 HAS BEEN FAVORABLY COMPARED TO ADOBE PHOTOSHOP IN ITS POWER
AND FLEXIBILITY... AND IT IS A MASSIVELY WONDERFUL PROGRAM DO YOU
GUYS HAVE ANY INTRO REMARKS?
Harv: BEFORE WE START TAKING QUESTIONS... LET'S POLL THE AUDIENCE
HERE.... DEAR ALL .... IF YOU CURRENTLY OWN IMAGEFX 1.5 OR 2.0
PLEASE ENTER "1.5" OR "2.0" RIGHT NOW
Kermit: .90, 1.0, 1.01, 1.5, 2.0, and... :)
Harv: IF YOU CURRENTLY OWN A COMPETING PRODUCT, ENTER "ADP" FOR ADPRO (ANY
VERSION) OR "IM" FOR IMAGEMASTER (ANY VERSION)
DonnOK: ADP ...
jpawluk: ADP IM
ted-c: adp,im,TV Paint
ScottJ: ADP & IM
Harv: OKAY KERMIT.. LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A GOOD CROWD TO SELL TO :) WE'RE READY
DonnOK: Does the product support 24 bit cards like the retina on a A2000??
Kermit: Yes. On the Retina Z2/Z3 we can put up windowed 16/24bit
Harv: KERMIT... HOW ABOUT A LIST OF WHICH BOARDS YOU DRIVE? IF YOU CAN
REMEMBER THEM ALL..
Kermit: Ummm...it's easier to say which ones we DON'T preview on
actually... We don't preview on the Mimetics Framebuffer, the
Harlequin and such... We don't currently preview on Picasso II,
EGS based boards or the Toaster...
Harv: DCTV, HAM-E, ETC.
Kermit: Not right now.
Kermit: We do render out to all of these boards except the Mimetics.
jcompton: Well, ok, I'll be the first to two-part you. Followup to the
last question: Do you plan CyberGraphics support?
Kermit: Yes, we plan full Cybergraphics support.
Harv: JASON IN 25 WORDS OR LESS, WHAT IS THAT, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW?
jcompton: CyberGraphics is a new shareware RTG system designed for most
graphics boards, including the soon-to-be-released CyberVision.
Harv: AND WHO MAKES CYBERVISION
jcompton: CyberVision is made by Phase 5/AS&S Germany. AS&S currently has
no US distributor.
jcompton: Secondly, how serious is your Amiga support? Even some of the
most prolific companies are now in the "We'd like to continue
supporting the Amiga" rather than the "We WILL continue
supporting the Amiga"...
Bob: WE WILL continue to support AMI
Harv: (TOM ALSO WROTE VIEWTEK AND REND24 FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT KNOW
soft-logik: Does FX do virtual memory?
Harv: (has its own built-in VM. doesn't need gigamem, etc.)
Kermit: Definitely. However the virtual memory is only for images, not
for the software itself. This allows it to be much faster and
work on ALL Amigas, not just those with MMUs.
TheDuck: excuse me, very off topic question... do you have any plan in
the future for non-graphics software?... ie: music software?
Harv: that's a legit question.
Kermit: We've got ImageFX EGS 1.61 ...thats just got a little graphics in
TomK: I wish... :)
Bob: But it sounds really bad...
Kermit: Seriously, our future software plans aren't set in stone. We'll
make public announcements when something is ready.
ScottJ: Kermit, will IFX ever add support for Video For Windows &
QuickTime? The source code for some of the codecs is in the Xanim
Kermit: Scott...that's being investigated now. We certainly don't want to
move on it too fast and have another GIF-like problem.
Bob: QT sux
Kermit: (The above is a reference to the GIF/LZW controversy from CIS)
TomK: Tell us what you _really_ think, Bob.. :)
DonnOK: What does IFX feature that ADP doesn't like functions on image or
Kermit: Don, for a full list I'd have to refer you to the press releases
we have online here and everywhere. It's a LONG list. Big items:
Visual image loading and thumbnail image previews, lightning
effects, PaintFX - turn your images into simulated paintings or
animated paintings, natural media painting modes, painting, more
loaders/savers which are all included, etc.
Bob: It would take HOURS to just list what IFX does that adp doesn't
Harv: (don't forget arexx macro recording. hit one key, record all your
mouse clicks for playback later)
DrGandalf: Kermit, I am unclear, did you say you currently do or don't
support the Harlequin?... [can't fall behind ADPro, Y'know
Kermit: We do support the Harlequin for rendering. Actually Xi wrote it
DrGandalf: Included with 2.0?
Harv: Tom.... you are aware, of course, of this new very fast jpeg code
such as in... "FastJPEG_AGA" yes?... will you implement that in
ImageFX? and if not why not :)
tom, fjpeg loads .jpg files about 2-3x as fast as viewtek with less
TomK: I personally haven't seen "FastJPEG", but I have heard it mentioned
a few times.
Kermit: It's my understanding the author rewrote the IJG jpeg code into
TomK: That's probably on the list of things to look into though (if I know
Harv: tom.. okay... viewtek question for you... I'd like to see you
expand what it does a bit... i.e.:::: say i'm using it to view pics
off a cd rom... something I do a lot... and I see one i want to
copy to my hard drive... how about puting something in vt's
interface to let me do that? GA (so I don't have to use opus AND
viewtek to do what one could do alone) (or maybe i should just
config opus to use viewtek :)
TomK: I'm not sure that I'd want to put a dirutil into VT, there's really
not much of an 'interface' there for that. For now, I'd recommend
just configuring DirOpus to use VT. :)
Harv: well not a whole dirutil.. just a "copy to" button. (beg beg).
JeffW: I have image fx 2.0 and I am very pleased. Does the program support now
or in the future the epson 1200c scanner at 2400 x 2400 dpi. and how much
memory would be needed at that dpi? GA
Kermit: ImageFX 2.0 does support the es1200c ...as for memory usage...Tom?
TomK: 2400x2400dpi 8.5x11 @ 24-bit == c. 1577MB according to my calculator
[Yes, IFX 2.0 supports 2400dpi.]
Harv: (you wouldn't really want to scan the whole 8x11 bed at 24 bit color at
2400dpi unless you were tottally insane, of course)
(at 2400dpi you could fill the screen with the head of a pin..
grog: speaking of GIF, do you guys support gif 89a with transparency?
Kermit: We do not support GIF89a with transparency. Given the state of
affairs that Compuserve has created with GIF, it's not likely to
soft-logik: A series of questions inspired by ImageMaster: How fast is IFX
Is it style Guide Compliant
Do you get a manual?
What scanners are supported?
Kermit: Whoa! Ok...here goes...
TomK: AUISG compliant: Yes.
Kermit: We're faster in about everything than any competing package on the
Kermit: You get a great manual...heavily illustrated and around 400 or
Harv: (fantastic manual)
soft-logik: So, it's nothing like ImageMaster. ;-)
jcompton: (Harv particularly likes the online manual)
Kermit: We support the Epson line of scanners, Sharp JX100, and most all
Harv: (I wrote the online manual :) (IFX2 has *tons* of online help key
Kermit: Our online HELP system is second to none. Actually readable and
well put together. Right Mr. Laser?
ScottJ: Kermit, do you know if IFX will work on any of the 060 boards?
TomK: Scott: It should.
Kermit: Never seen one. Totally unknown. Are they even available???
jcompton: Kermit- No, but they're always nice thoughts. :)
Bob: Scott, could you loan me one for testing? :)
Kermit: Tom's the authority on that though. Since he said "yes", I'll say
TomK: I just flipped a coin... :)
Kermit: Darn...that takes all the mystery out of it now. ;)
DonnOK: I am a loyal Amiga fan, don't get me wrong, but ......Are there
any problems with IBM or mac OS s/w or h/w such that you will not
port to them??
Kermit: Yes. ;)
Harv: get photoshop
Kermit: Seriously, why should any Amiga owner care?
jcompton: What is Nova's policy on development documentation for hooks,
and are you planning to release hooks on any sort of regular
TomK: The developer info for IFX 2.0 should be ready this week.
Kermit: We have plans for updates, similar to our past schedules.
Bob: and it only costs 5,000 dollars...make checks out to Bob Fisher
[Bob's kidding. The developer information is free, and hooks can be
freely redistributed or sold at the developer's discretion.]
Harv: okay me again.. another one for tom probably... when using
paintfx, sometimes I get into a situation.... where i've asked it
to do something totaly stupid.... such as use 3000 brush strokes or
something.... I can pound on the cancel button but often it takes
forever to cancel.... besides "don't do that, stupid" is there a
way.... for the cancel button to be recognized before the gas gauge
hits its first marker?
Kermit: The simple answer is...oh, I see you mentioned that, well the
moderate answer is that PaintFX is internally quite complex and it
has to setup lots of stuff. Cancelling simply isn't implemented
until it's actually doing sometime to an image.
TomK: Actually it checks the cancel gadget in between the fuel gauge
markers, but sometimes (like probably in the case you mention,
depending on the brush size), it just takes a while to get around to
checking for the cancel. Or, what kermit said. :)
Harv: is there no way to make it see cancel immediately?
TomK: Harv - I'll have to look into that some more.
Lyonking: Is Cinemorph included in IFX 2.0 and if so was it improved over
the previous version?
Kermit: Yes. CineMorph, as always, is included with ImageFX 2.0 ... it
has several improvements. It has color displays and can use the
thumbnail image requestor and has had ARexx added to it.
ScottJ: Kermit, what about Photo CD support and the new TIFF-JPG picture
format? Also, when is the demo version of IFX 2.0 going to be
Kermit: We've included that public domain PhotoCD compatible loader as
part of an "extras" package on our disks. The TIFF/JPG format has
been somewhat of a philosophic issue here...we tend to agree with
the Independant JPEG Group that no one should imbed JPEG images
inside another file format for no productive reason, but as we are
a conversion package we are looking at possibly support for
LOADing these but not saving them. As for the demo...real soon
Harv: ifx's photocd loader works perfectly. use it all the time.
ted-c: Any plans for ImageFX to run natively on graphic baords because
while 24 bit is nice, the increased resolution is now a
necessity, not a luxury.
Kermit: What would "natively" mean?
ted-c: paint, run the program on a separate screen (i've got the picasso
board) rather than just a preview or render screen
Kermit: ImageFX 2.0 can run in windows on a single screen on the regular
Amiga Workbench and in 24bits on the Retina Workbench.
Cybergraphics support for similar displays is coming.
Bob: If those companies would be more AMIGA friendly there'd be a lot of
s/w for them
Harv: (If you have an AGA machine you can run imagefx on a 256 color workbench
including its preview window which is pretty cool)
ted-c: kermit, I was just tryin' to say that editing files in a 1280x1024
screen is really very productive.
Kermit: I agree...it's fully possible in ImageFX 2.0.
ScottJ: As the only image processing program still being upgraded, how
much longer do you think you can continue to support the Amiga?
Also any chance of CDXL support being added to IFX 2.0?
jcompton: As a point of order, I wouldn't go so far as to call IFX the
only image-processing program still being updated.
Bob: Easilly through 1996 even if there is never another Amiga made!
Kermit: There's darned little call for CDXL support and darned little info
DonnOK: Do you work with NS's Vlab framegrabber, and how much menmory on the
average do you need for imputting images from this source fro manipulating
these images (aprox 75 dpi??) ....
TomK: A hires lace overscan framegrab would use about 1MB of memory, I