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.../Amiga Zone/Files & Messages/Message Bases/Hardware/Composite Output
16027.3.250.2 Re: Composite Output
9/17/93 22:20 25/1429 NES-Bill

>  To play arcade games on a big-screen TV off an Amiga 2000, what is
>  the best hardware to use?  I have an ancient C'Ltd(?) demodulator
>  that is nothing more than an Amiga video plug, housing a few discrete
>  components at one end of a coax, and an RCA plug on the other end.
>  Has modern science come up with something more sophisticated?  8-)

        If you want the best quality, you want a video encoder that gives
you an RS-170A composite signal or a split Y/C signal like SVHS uses.
Which you look for will be determined by what your TV can handle. SVHS
gives a lot better looking image than regular composite. Most good
encoders aren't cheap, they range from $75 or so on up... A cheap one,
however, can be had in the Commodore A520 encoder. That plugs into your
RGB port and gives the appropriate signals. you can't use an RGB monitor
at the same time though.

>  On a similar vein, what is the maximum acceptable dot 'pitch' to be
>  considered in buying a VGA monitor to attach to a Microway Flicker
>  Fixer or a CBM 2320?  I keep seeing how prices go up as the pitch
>  gets smaller.  Is this relevant to an Amiga 640 x 400 max?  Thanks.

        This can be one of those wars, of course. :-) I wouldn't recomend
a dot pitch worse than 0.31mm for anything that involves text display on
the screen. Coarser than that gives you fuzzy looking letters.

                           Bill Seymour - Amiga Zone Hardware Specialist


.../Amiga Zone/Files & Messages/Message Bases/Hardware/Composite Output
16027.3.250.3 Re: Composite Output
9/19/93 06:17 22/1064 TOMESH

>        If you want the best quality, you want a video encoder that gives
>you an RS-170A composite signal or a split Y/C signal like SVHS uses.
>Which you look for will be determined by what your TV can handle. SVHS
>gives a lot better looking image than regular composite. Most good
>encoders aren't cheap, they range from $75 or so on up...

         Where do I look to find ads for useable 'video encoders' that are
high quality, if not especially cheap, should the prize turn out worth the
game?  (I have a large Sony TV with Y/C signal inputs available.)

         Also...  what do the ads mean in the IBM world for 'non-interlace'
monitors vs. 'interlace' monitors, and what is the difference between VGA
and SVGA monitors?  I thought the frame-signal being fed into a monitor
each 1/60th of a second determines whether the display is interlaced.
Is all this garbage related somehow to the horizontal scan rate?


.../Amiga Zone/Files & Messages/Message Bases/Hardware/Composite Output
16027.3.250.4 Re: Composite Output
9/19/93 20:18 31/1871 NES-Bill

>         Where do I look to find ads for useable 'video encoders' that are
>high quality, if not especially cheap, should the prize turn out worth the
>game?  (I have a large Sony TV with Y/C signal inputs available.)

        Well, a few years ago when I worked for CMI, I'd have said that their
encoder was the best buy for the money. Now that they're out of business, a
used one of theirs is the best buy for the money. :-) If you have a machine
with a free video slot, I saw some of the Magni encoder/genlocks at WoCA last
weekend for sale still at reasonable prices. Failing that, the Commodore A520
is still available, and fairly cheap. Though it doesn't give as good of a
signal as the others.

>         Also...  what do the ads mean in the IBM world for 'non-interlace'
>monitors vs. 'interlace' monitors, and what is the difference between VGA
>and SVGA monitors?  I thought the frame-signal being fed into a monitor
>each 1/60th of a second determines whether the display is interlaced.
>Is all this garbage related somehow to the horizontal scan rate?

        The interlaced SVGA monitors for PCs aren't able to handle quite as
good of a bandwidth as the non-interlaced. This means (for instance) that for
a 1024x768 resolution, an interlaced monitor would have to display the screen
in two passes, showing every other line on each pass, while a non-interlaced
monitor could show the whole screen in one pass. Many of the newer monitors
go one step better and display a non-interlaced screen at 72 or 75 Hz instead
of the more normal 60 Hz. This reduces the flicker...

        The display that the monitor actually is showing is a function of the
display card, not the monitor. All SVGA cards that I know of can display most
of the higher resolutions in either an interlaced or non-interlaced display.

                           Bill Seymour - Amiga Zone Hardware Specialist


.../Message Bases/Creativity - The Arts/Deluxe Music 2.0 now shipping!
16030.3.87.1 ..finally :)
9/21/93 15:58 32/1482 Harv

Electronic Arts is FINALLY shipping Deluxe Music 2.0, the major
upgrade/rewrite of Deluxe Music Construction Set which they originally
relesaed back in 1986. (There has been a demo version of DM2 in
our library here for the past few months).

If you own any old version of DMCS, your manual cover and
$57 will get you the new version. I ordered mine today. I did not,
however, save my note as to what address I mailed the envelope to.
However, you can dial Electronic Arts on 1-800-245-4525 as I did
and follow the voice mail menus through to the "upgrades"
selection to get to a human being who can give you all the
appropriate information.

I don't know what the retail or street prices for Deluxe Music 2.0
are.. I phoned Creative Computers' store (nearby me) this morning
but they had not yet received the product in so they couldn't
tell me what they were selling it for.

From postings I've read on Usenet, this new upgrade offers even
MORE than the demo version here has, such as the ability to make
completely free-standing score files with the instruments embedded
in them, plus it has a player program so the main program need
not be invoked just to listen to scores you already have.

Check out on Usenet for reports by folks who
have already received their upgrades and what they think of it.
And remember, if/when you get yours we have a veritable TON of
DMCS scores in a dedicated file library here for you to

Amiga Zone Sysop


From FidoNet's Amiga International Echo

Area: AMIGA                                   Date: 19 Sep 93 15:33:08
From: David Godlewski (1:124/2105.0)
To  : All
Subj: Alive!


Yes it's true.  It has been for many years in case you haven't
noticed.  A word about "doom & gloomers": useless.  Most of
the time they have no idea what they are talking about.  I was
going through some old Amiga Worlds (1986 & 1987) and there 
was talk of Commodore going under way back then.  When is
going to end?  Never probably, but we can stop subscribing
to it's message.

The Amiga CD32 has a bright future.  Commodore will get it right
this time.  When it does come here to America, and when it is 
available from stores such as Toys (backwards)R US,  I suggest 
buying it from there and not local dealers.  WHY?  The CD32 will
need the support through mass market chains.  

Just a little history on me... My first Amiga was the 1000 (that's 
right.. I am among the 1st generation) next the 500, 3000, then the 
CDTV.  I have them all still except for the CDTV.  It was fun 
for a while,  but useless to me because it was basically like the
SEGA CD is now:  lots of crap software and not much long term value.
I was going to get a new 1200, but the CD32 sounds like a much better
deal.  I have enough computers to do my serious work.  All I want
now is great games at a good price(which the CD32 will deliver). 
Overall public opinion is in favor of the CD32.  

I think the main problem over the years is that only a select few 
have been graced with enough intelligence and vision to use the
Amiga.  Many Americans want to be told what to do and like to 
know exactly what something is for.  The Amiga has always been
described as an everything machine.  Fine for us, but bad for the
majority.  Many people(believe it or not) do not have any creativity
or individual inspiration.  Now is a good time for the Amiga.  The 1200
is a good home computer, the 4000 is an excellent video workstation, 
and the CD32 is a great games machine.  Finally Commodore has made the 
same machine into 3 different machines so most people will now know
which one to get for their own individual reasons.

This may shock some people, but I like Commodore, and thank them 
for everthing they have done. (Come on they kept the Amiga Alive).
I have never had a problem with any product from them, and to this 
day all of my Amiga's still work perfectly. (including my A1000)

Another long one... Anybody read it?


Area: AMIGA                                   Date: 10 Sep 93 14:28:17
From: Tim Lloyd (6:700/267.69)
To  : ALL
Subj: CD32 I've got one !!!! :)

Well Guys & Gals

I have just received my CD32 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It took only one day to get from England to here in Hong Kong !! now thats
what I call fast.... and who says mail order is slow :^)

Well the run down....

First impression.... well I'm gob smacked :)

The machine.....

Contrary to other reports the build quality is fine, the lid is solid
enough, and not flismy. The rest of the machine is fine... no rough edges,
no bad fittings. Overall it looks really smart.
The main machine itself is made in the Phillipenes whereas the joypad is
made in China (I have a feeling it's made by the quickshot people, as they
have a very large factory in China).
The joypad is great, I used to hate the things, but this one sits in the hand
really nicely.

I have it connected up to my 21" TV through the S-Video output, and have the
sound running through a rather large Amp :-P

The games....

Well it comes with Diggers & Oscar - both are on the one disk.

Diggers I haven't really tried out yet so I can't really give an opinion,
although from what I have seen the graphics & sound are superb. The one I did
try out was Oscar.... this is a great platform game, colourful graphics lots
of music & sound effects... overall great fun to play (although I have only
spent 30 minutes playing it so far).

I also have Trivial Pursuit, which I bought for use with my CD Rom drive
attached to my 3000T, problem is it never worked, as the Xetec software
couldn't support this disk.
Well I can now use it ! so if anyone is a fan of Trivial Pursuit, GET this
disk... it's excellent, it's real fun to play, the questions are spoken and
you get great pictures with every question (they actually look 24bit on the
TV, they are so clear).

Well all I can say is, I can't wait for Syndicate, Alien Breed II, Pinball
Fantasies, etc, etc :^)

If you can get your hands on one... then get it, you won't be disappointed.
it's certainly the machine to carry the Amiga forward (in the publics eye),
and get the Name more widely recognised.



Area: AMIGA                                   Date: 20 Sep 93 23:19:30
From: Matt Morgan (1:202/1312.0)
To  : All
Subj: 3DO -- CD^32  MUST READ UPDATE!!!

        All Electronique's Boutique Stores have recieved display boxes of the
 Panasonic 3DO player. It will sell for $699.00, and in extremely small
 quantities (smaller quantities than the Sega-CD had last Christmas!) EB
is having a Pre-Sale on this item. The box doesn't give away too many specs,
double-speed multisession CD-ROM (Just like the CD^32) and a 32-bit RISC
processor capable of 64 Million pixels per second.

        The Amiga CD^32 is in the newest issue of DieHard GAMEFAN and will
have more coverage in the future. The magazine lists it's specifications
and notes that it has been released in Europe, U.S. release unknown, European
consumers very excited, Developers quickly taking action, and Jurrasic Park,
 Zool II, and Chaos Engine.

        The CD^32 is selling in quantities of 20,000+ each week in Europe. At
the World of Commodore Exhibition, CBM gave an expected U.S. release date of
October (Around the same time as 3DO) in limited quantities. With the CD^32's
32-bit 68020/14Mhz, 2MB Memory, 32-bit Graphics Co-processor, Double-speed
multission CD-ROM for a $399.00 Retail Price, the odds are somewhat even.
Developers are more interested in the CD^32 because it's a lot easier to
develop for. Developing tools for the CD^32, which is an Amiga at it's heart,
have gone through eight years of evolution. Commodore went to developers first
and actually asked them what they wanted in this system! Many developers are
lined up including, but not limited to, Acclaim, Virgin, Ocean, Gremlin,
Compton's New Media, Psygnosis, Probe, Mindscape, and Millenium. Notice how
Electronic Arts seems to be missing? Ha Ha Ha! Only time will tell the future!


Area: AMIGA                                   Date: 21 Sep 93  7:07:06
From: Jon Peterson (1:383/300.0)
To  : All
Subj: FFish1000th Anniversary

Here is the list of donors for the third week of the FFish 1000th
Anniversary thingy:

Jon Peterson
Matthew L. Schultz
Chris Nelson
Asha DeVelder
Marshall Freedland
Jeremy Friesner
Michael Phipps
Darrin & Lisa Zimmerman (Amiga Un-Sig of Southern Michigan)
Eric V. Peterson (muchly appreciate the letter and news)

Total donations as of 9/18/93 are $175.00.  Got a ways to go
folks.  Please talk this up with all concerned (Amiga users) and
pass the word on to your Users Groups.

    ******************* THE PROPOSAL***********************

For years and years, the work of Fred Fish in the organization, culling and
distribution of non-commercial programs to the Amiga community has been of
great benefit to us all.  Programmers have been able to present their best 
efforts and we, of course, would have had doubtful access to some of the 
most innovative programs written - for any computer platform.  As the vast 
majority of us Amiga users are aware, Fred Fish is coming up on the 1000th 
disk issue of this outstanding collection. This, in my humble opinion, is a 
milestone that should not go unnoticed. His contribution to the Amiga 
community certainly ranks alongside those that created this outstanding 
machine.  As such, participants on FidoNet have proposed the Amiga community 
show our appreciation at the issuance of the 1000th disk by sending in 
donations to gather sufficient funds to purchase an A4000T (if and when 
available) or comparable machine when the time comes.  Now is the time to 
get this thing going. If estimates are correct, at the present rate of 
publication, the 1000th disk should be out in approximately three to four 
months. Donations are being sent to:

Concho Valley Computer Users Group
FFish 1000th Fund
% Jon Peterson
P.O. Box 2661
San Angelo, TX 76902

Your assistance in posting this message on the BBSs you use or run would be 
greatly appreciated (sysops, how about a bulletin on logon?). Also request 
everyone pass the word at any Users Group meetings you attend. This should 
be a group effort on behalf of all the Amiga users throughout the world. 
Please donate whatever you can afford - or even better - what you honestly 
think FFish's work has been worth to you through the years. Thanks.